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Kendall County Property Tax Revolt – An Update

July 13th rally and an online petition to sign

Just returned from a week-long fishing trip with 2 sons and a grandson up in MN without any Internet. Great family trip but now to go through over 600 emails missed last week!

Our group is still growing! I just received an email from Patch corporate office that told me our BLOG was in the top 100 BLOGs in the country! Over 22,000 BLOGs and we were in the top 100 in traffic! I guess we hit a nerve here in Kendall County! Thanks to all who are getting involved to stop the madness.

We have a rally planned for Friday, 7/13/12 in Hudson Park, Oswego  - down by the river. Here is an announcement from Jan A on the event. I sincerely hope to see everyone come out and get involved. If you ever wanted to make a difference – now is that time!

A few concerned Oswegoans will be holding a Tax Rally on July 13, 2012 at Hudson Crossing Park from noon to 8:00pm.  All are invited to attend to learn how we can become involved and work together to stabilize the real estate taxes levied on our homes and properties.
 
A special invitation goes out to all citizens in Kendall County who are concerned about their children's and grandchildren's ability to fund this out of control taxation.  What better way to help them and show the next generations that we care and want to improve and preserve a great community environment, than by attending a few meeting on their behalf.
 
Retired Seniors with all their professional and life experience might want to consider putting their talents to work for a much needed cause.  For those able Retirees this is an opportunity to leave a lasting legacy.  Hope to see you at the Rally.

A final note: We have established a website petition to have everyone sign up and post their beliefs of the unfair property tax burden on every citizen. Go to the website here: http://www.change.org/petitions/kendall-county-local-government-units-reduce-property-taxes-to-2008-levels-or-a-20-reduction-in-spending. Please add your comment since we want to see everyone's opinions!

Todd Milliron July 10, 2012 at 02:55 am
Tim,
Since you live not in Kendall County, it is understandable that you would think the out of service River Road Bridge is a “County Bridge.” FYI, it is a Yorkville City Bridge. Kendall County Government has made one loan to Yorkville for Bridge Engineering and another more substantial county loan to Yorkville at the request of Mayor Golinski for New Bridge Construction because the City of Yorkville is presently over leveraged on infrastructure debt like water and sewer lines built to accommodate “bet the farm” subdivision developers. These vacant or under built (curb and gutter only) sub-divisions which are now owned by Mega Banks were bailed out by us federal taxpayers and were funded by alternate revenue bonds. That alternate revenue source is now the common taxpayers of Yorkville who again are left to pay for this grand (infrastructure gamble) scheme perpetuated by the 1999-2007 Prochaska Administration. This was the root cause of chasing rooftops to have more rooftops on the fringe of the Greater Chicago Metro. It has become THE primary reason for annually increasing taxes. We were told Growth would pay its’ way during this 8-year period. We who choose to stay,care about our communities are left to pick up the pieces & pay the freight/tab left by the recklessness behavior of the fast buck crowd. Please ask John Purcell, why the 30+ lots he owned went to Delinquent Property Tax sale on 11-6-2009. http://www.yorkvilleinsider.org/kcb/purcell/propertytax.pdf
Jillian Duchnowski July 10, 2012 at 02:44 pm
If you are interested in learning more about what the county is doing to promote economic development and diversifying the tax base, check out this article: http://patch.com/A-vSR2
Charles Babco July 11, 2012 at 05:05 pm
@ Tim > "Young people are smart enough to not move to an exurb. They are moving to urban centers."
I'm not sure which young people you're referring to. My new subdivision is full of home owners under the age of 40. I guess they should all move back to Kane, Cook, Will, Lake, or whatever urban county they came from ? I think they moved to Kendall in part, to escape the congestion of those counties. Those counties seem to be filling up with new residents from Cook County, who have decided to escape the crime, poor schools, and gangs (both street & political) of Chicago and it's nearby suburbs. Many of us do not care to live in "urban centers " that are over crowded, polluted, noisy, etc.
Tim July 11, 2012 at 05:40 pm
@Charles,
I hate to break your illusion of reality with actual facts, but your new subdivision is not 'full of young people'. Under 40 is not what 'young' is defined as. Under 30 is, and there are very few of those in your neighborhood, nor will there ever be again. While you may see a handful of them, it is very, very far from 'full' of them. In fact, the only thing that area is 'full of' is foreclosures. With areas like this pushing 10% of the total houses in the subdivision at some stage of the foreclosure process. http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/Bucktail-Dr-Oswego-IL-60543/2122037028_zpid/ You can also check how many of your 'neighbors' are delinquent in paying their property taxes too. http://taxinquiry.co.kendall.il.us/forms/search.aspx You would make better decisions if your opinions were based on the reality of the situation, instead of your personal perception of it.
Judith Burks July 11, 2012 at 06:08 pm
I have to say voting out the elected officials who do not support your views is definitely an option but how about talking to them first and expressing your views. You know, some of them were just elected and will be around for at least the next 3 years. That's a long time to just wait those suckers out so you can get rid of them. How about giving them a call and an email to let them know what you would like them to support? Let's remember these people in our city government are not "evil others". They are our neighbors who are trying to make our community a great place to live. Do they always make decisions that we agree with? No But are you actually telling them what your opinion is or just complaining when they do something you con't agree with? I have talked to all of them and basically they are pretty nice people - so call them up, tell them what's on your mind. Sometimes they vote for things differently from what they personally want because their constituents have a different view. They can't know what you want if you don't tell them. If you have an idea of how your city should look, function, it's your responsibility to GET INVOLVED!
Charles Babco July 12, 2012 at 03:53 pm
@ Tim " You would make better decisions if your opinions were based on the reality of the situation, instead of your personal perception of it "
FYI > The vast majority of people under the age of 30 do not buy $250- $300 homes. They have not had 3 or 4 kids yet, therefore they have no need for that size of home. You do not cite your source for your definition of "young people" but even if we take your word for it, the fact of the matter is that adults under 40 tend to have younger children. I understand many ppl are delinquent on their HOA, property taxes, and even mortgages. But that all has nothing to do with where they happen to live. Same is true outside of Kendall County. Please respond with a better argument. I have a firm grasp of reality.
Tim July 12, 2012 at 06:28 pm
Nope, it is not true to this degree outside of Kendall County. In fact, it is Kendall County leading the way. By a LARGE margin.
http://heraldnews.suntimes.com/news/13715406-418/foreclosure-filings-rise.html "In Kendall County, which ranked first in the state, filings totaled 1,392, up 60.55 percent from the second half of last year and 24.62 percent from the first half." There will be no influx of people in your lifetime, young or old, to help you out. You will have to fix this on your own by directly addressing the problems you all caused. This means paying for what you 'wanted'. Pointing fingers at politicians is not directly addressing anything other than your need to feel good. This 'build everything', and then complain about it when the bill comes due attitude, is laughable. Would you care to post the results of the referendums that passed over the last 10 years? Your fellow neighbors voted to spend all this money, and no doubt some of them are thinking twice about those votes. Unfortunately, they could have prevented all of these problems, if they had bothered to think ONCE the first time around. You are organizing to cut services to the rest of your community. The bills for the expenses already incurred are not going to go away, so your answer is to cut funding to other programs and services? Taxes are higher in Lake county, by the way. Yet they are nowhere on the top foreclosure list. Take some time to think about what you are doing, for once.
Charles Babco July 13, 2012 at 12:15 am
In your own words Tim > " This is not a problem unique to Kendall County, it is a reflection of the poorly planned allocation of resources in the exurb model, and is happening across the country."
Of the 22 homes on my street, 13 of them are owned by people under 40. I realize "young" is a relative or subjective term, but as far as a home buyer goes, under 40 is fairly young. People younger than 30 generally rent or purchase town homes. But please feel free to tell us more about these "urban centers" you speak of. Which one do you reside in ? If you are happy there, great. Some of us choose not to be confined to highly concentrated areas such as Aurora, Chicago, Joliet, Elgin, etc. But you have a point about the referendums. We have to pay what we vote for, which is why some of us have been voting NO. Have you noticed that property taxes are on a steep rise in Cook County too ? Cook is an urban center, is it not ?
Tim July 13, 2012 at 01:10 am
'Some of us choose not to be confined'
Well then, pay the taxes that are required to support all the infrastructure you take for granted to 'not be confined' and deal with it like an adult. Don't whine about it and demand that services be cut to lower your taxes, now that the money was already spent to build out the infrastructure that allows you to live here in the first place.
Charles Babco July 13, 2012 at 03:58 pm
The wasteful spending continues. Now Yorkville wants to put up $4 million to help build a new YMCA facility, b/c they feel it will take business away from the current Rec. Center. Or they want to purchase the Rec. Center. Why not just let the Y build a new facility, and if it pushes out the Rec, so be it. The Y can spend $8 million b/c it is a more efficient operation.
btw Tim, if you don't live in Kendall, then why do you care if we choose to whine about higher taxes ?? I could care less about your taxes. Or do you not even pay property taxes ?
Rick Hackbarth July 13, 2012 at 04:59 pm
My family is new to Oswego and Kendall County. I wish I had heard of this rally prior to today so I could have joined the protest. I agree with a comment above in that we need to talk to those currently in office, and if they do not make changes we need to replace them. How many of us would run to replace them? One of the best way to stop the increases in property taxes is to have responsible housing growth. The downturn in the real estate market slowed the housing growth. If that had not happened property taxes would continue to sky rocket! We don't need anymore subdivisions in the middle of corn fields like the Hunt Club subdivision on Minkler Rd. That sticks out like a sore thumb! There is plenty of land out by Rt 59 and to the north to build new homes, and plenty of foreclosed homes to be bought and made new again too! Let's not try to become the next "Naperville." I happen to like the country farm like feel of Kendall County!
Tim July 13, 2012 at 05:14 pm
Because in a few more months, you will be complaining about how bad the roads are, or wondering why the next bridge collapsed, or why the streets aren't plowed to your liking, or wondering why the roads arent cleared after a severe storm.
You have shown a complete lack of ability to form a long-term plan, and are only being reactive to short-term issues. It is a guaranteed recipe for disaster, and nobody wants to hear you complain later about what is lacking, about the same things you DEMANDED be cut now. You see, you are not the first one to think like this, and it is obvious that you have not even bothered to look at the long term results of those like-minded communities that came before you. To not spoil the fun of you finding out for yourself, I will let you find the history of these similar communities on your own. In the meantime, I will sit back with my bowl of popcorn and watch the disaster unfold that you are the one causing.
Robert Long July 13, 2012 at 06:06 pm
He y tim sound like your a county employee to me
Tim July 13, 2012 at 06:14 pm
You wouldn't catch me dead in Kendall county, much less working for them. Between the incompetence of local government to do what is needed(not wanted), and the selfish attitudes of every single resident I have ever met from there, it is a miracle that this disaster has not come sooner. Not to worry, this group is doing what it can to speed up the process.
Do any of you have any idea how much your property taxes are going to go up next year, when the county can no longer pull from its reserve funds to make up the shortfall? It is going to be hilarious, not because it is fun to watch people suffer, but because the warnings of exactly this over the past decade have fallen on deaf ears of the same residents that are now complaining about it. From my point of view, they are complaining about their own lack of responsibility for their own actions, yet looking to place the blame anywhere but on them. It is like watching the tantrums of a child.
Reasonable Conservative July 13, 2012 at 06:22 pm
Does anyone know why this "Tim" person is part of this discussion? He does not live or work here and appears to have no connection to our county. His suggestions are also inappropriate in many ways. May I suggest we not respond to his diatribes and focus on how we can lower out taxes.
Stephen Youhanaie July 13, 2012 at 06:51 pm
To All Who Are Interested: You want to fix the problem? Look in the mirror, and ask yourself one question, "Where was I during the election cycles of the last 10 years?"
If the answer is, I didn't vote, I didn't work to elect good candidates, I didn't pay attention, or a combination of all three answers, YOU are to blame. The solution is simple. Form a non-partisan property owners association dedicated to recruiting, and electing quality candidates for all offices, from library board to school board, from park district to village hall, from township to county. Otherwise, all these postings, and anybody elses complaints are all in vain.
BaronVonHage July 13, 2012 at 06:58 pm
Rick, thanks for the welcome. I am a Hunt Club Resident and actually enjoy the view of the corn being seeded, growing, and being harvested on all four sides of home in the middle of corn fields. My only wish is that my property taxes were lower and that the school board could tighten their belt and stop spending.
Judith Burks July 14, 2012 at 01:18 am
Yahoo - I'm with you Stephen. But we actually do have some good folks in there so let's check them out before we throw themout.
Reasonable Conservative July 14, 2012 at 01:47 am
I respectfully disagree with Ms. Banks. The people who are there are very nice, probably very smart and surely very wonderful people. Unfortunately, they always have some excuse why they keep spending. And our taxes keep going up. We need people in there who will not engage in spending and take cuts seriously.
Reasonable Conservative July 14, 2012 at 01:53 am
Let me give an example. The Rec center is now being considered as a purchase. My goodness how can that be? How could that even be considered? It is a private business and needs to stay a private business. The Rex center will pay approximately $720,000 into county and city tax revenue. Why would we want to take the revenue stream out and in its place put an expenditure for maintenance and mortgage costs? That is just one egregious example. We all know there are many more. This story made the front page of the records for goodness sake. My point is the people who have been in power cannot get the job done. OK, lets congratulate them for trying, but they failed. So lets put others in. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting to get a different result. The Yorkville school board just spent millions on a new phone system. Nice, but what was so wrong with the one we had. Could it not get the job done or did we need some new contracts for whomever pitched the new system? Of course the phone system could do the job as it had for years. We just needed more bells and whistles, right? All I am saying is we need to be prudent and frugal. Must we have a depression in this country and lose our homes before we stop spending on things we want, but don't need?
Reasonable Conservative July 14, 2012 at 01:53 am
I wanted to retire here in Yorkville. It appears I may have to leave. I suspect the property tax rate will be over 10% next year and many will not make it. Eventually the houses will be sold for taxes. Can any community that taxes the citizens 10% of their home value every year sustain itself?
Judith Burks July 14, 2012 at 02:03 am
Whooo, Ipyramus, There are folks on the city council who are totally supporting what you say they just do not always have the majority vote. You are frustated - so are they!! Come to the council meetings and you will quickly figure out who you should support and who you need to replace. Let;s not throw them all out. Some of them CONSISTANLY support financial responsiblitly. They are doing a goo job. I do go to the council meetings.
Judith Burks July 14, 2012 at 02:06 am
Ipyraqmus, if you live in Yorkville, call your alderman and your mayor and let them know what you think and how their decisions impact your life. This is important and does make a difference, believe me.
Reasonable Conservative July 14, 2012 at 02:19 am
OK, I will. I have not found my involvement has done anything to change things. My opinions are simply not in the majority. I will, however, try and attend the meetings. Thank you for the suggestions.
Todd Milliron July 14, 2012 at 02:52 am
Judith,
Please tell the "In Name Only" fiscal conservatives on the Yorkville City Council to lead by example, walk the walk, make that public service sacrifice for the taxpayers of Yorkville, and terminate their taxpayer-funded health insurance that is costing Yorkville Taxpayers $150,000 a year for a part-time gig. I have never asked anyone to do anything that I would not do myself; you lead from the front by your actions, not just words uttered to get elected.
Audity July 14, 2012 at 06:56 am
I couldn't have said it better myself. Stop spending money on things that are unnecessary - and stop spending money against the taxpayers of the county. Instead of asking them to commit more of their income to county expenditures, cut county spending so that taxpayers can keep the money they need for food, clothes, gas, etc. Just like at home, if pennies need to be pinched, cut some corners and bank those dollars until funds become available and accessible. The taxpayers of Kendall County are already overburdened to the tune of some of the highest taxes in the country. It should NOT be the responsibility of the residents of Kendall County to foot the bill for poor governmental decisions and spending. I try to teach my children the concept of "want but do not need" and they understand it better than the Kendall County Government.
Judith Burks July 14, 2012 at 09:25 am
Todd, I know what I look for in the folks who represent me and I make my decisions based on that. I attend the meetings and communicate with the folks who have been elected. My vigilance may not be up to your standards and I can only focus on so many things at once. We all shine our light where we can.
Reasonable Conservative July 14, 2012 at 10:49 am
Todd’s stated issue is another reason why the whole council should be replaced. I know there are people on the council who voted against the health care issue. I respect their wisdom and concern, but they are not able to stop the spending. They did not find a way to prevent the passage of the law that allows this obscene benefit. Nor do they have the skills to convince their colleagues to vote to stop the health insurance. The steps they took were not successful (again!). I suggest we should let someone else with a different skill set try and get the health insurance costs removed. The council should be ashamed. Public service is not for their benefit, but the community's benefit. This is why I think I have to leave Kendall County. This is an issue that should not even be debated. Our elected officials ought, and I use that in a moral sense, not dare spend money on their selves. Yet they do time and time again. I for one do respect three Yorkville council members for consistently questioning spending and wise voting records, but they often fail to carry the day. The real point here is that the council has acted with the consent of the voters, voters who want to allow spending I consider immoral and unwise. Consequently, I must continue to pay or leave the community I love and enjoy. The voters have spoken.
russ harrison July 15, 2012 at 05:41 pm
How can we be out of money? We still have checks...
Jillian Duchnowski July 16, 2012 at 02:11 pm
Those of you concerned about government spending might find a project from the Illinois Policy Institute interesting. They're asking residents to send them specific examples of wasteful government spending: http://illin.is/MmWbMb

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