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Taxing Bodies Take Notice of Levy Reduction Referendum Results

Elected officials say they plan to look at their budgets to see where cuts could be made, but some say their budgets are already tight.

 

Voters overwhelmingly supported a Tuesday ballot initiative calling for government entities within Kendall County to cut 20 percent from every tax levy and area officials have heard the message.

According to unofficial results from Tuesday’s election, 71 percent of voters supported the call for property tax reduction.

Mark Johnson, an activist who helped put the referendum on the ballot, said the results speak for themselves.

“The people have spoken. Now we’ll see which groups will listen,” Johnson said.

Earlier this year a grassroots group called the Kendall County Property Tax Revolt circulated petitions to get this non-binding referendum on the ballot. Although the referendum is not binding, supporters hope it sends a message to trim the non-essentials and provide Kendall County property owners some tax relief.

The group’s message and its support at the ballot box has caught the attention of area leaders.

Bob Mattingly, board president for the Oswegoland Park District, said his board will discuss the referendum and how it may be addressed by the district. However, he said a 20 percent cut is unlikely as that would cost the district approximately $1 million annually.

“That would be something we could never get back to preserve the district and all it offers,” Mattingly said in a Wednesday telephone interview.

County Board Member-elect Matt Prochaska said he was surprised by the amount of support the referendum garnered.

“I was sure it was going to pass, but I am overwhelmed by the support. It definitely sent a clear signal,” Prochaska said Wednesday morning.

Prochaska said the county board will have to examine expenses and see where cuts can be made. He agreed that property taxes across the county are too high.

“In any budget there’s always room for cuts, but it may not be 20 percent,” Prochaska said. “We don’t want to cut services that are required and are necessary and proper for a government to be doing.”

Brian LeClercq, village president in Oswego, said he and other board members are open to discussing cuts in the levy with Tax Revolt members.

“I would like to chat with them about where cuts might be made. I always have been and always will be open to folks coming in and looking at the financials,” LeClercq said.

While LeClercq is open to a discussion, he said Oswego leaders have been cutting costs in the village for the past four years. Deeper budget cuts could hinder essential services, he said.

“Oswego went through a painful process several years ago and got rid of some staff members who were well liked and respected. It was a tough cut to make, but we did it,” he said.

Johnson said Tax Revolt members will be closely monitoring the tax levy processes across the county. If the referendum is largely ignored he predicted a number of people who support the proposal will run for municipal office in the spring election.

Related Topics: Kendall County, Tax Levy Referendum, oswego, and property tax revolt

kent duffy

9:56 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Bill Clinton famously said "it depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is. Well I think in the case of government services, it depends on what the meaning of "essential" is.

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David Edelman

10:27 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

People dont want to pay $0.75 to imporve the 911 phone system. Lets see what happens with that alone for such a small amount and when it wont work anymore effectively and when all of these peoples who voted to cut taxes by 20% cannot call for help when needed, I bet their minds just might change a little then............ Imagine if we really did cut all the other services by 20%.......

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Logansdad

4:39 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

People want tax cuts until it effects something they feel is necessary. When you make a blanket statement like cut everything by 20%, services that are already operating on a thin budget will be deciminated. That is why I voted no on that referendum.

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George Jones

9:02 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

In Oswego, the Village President & Trustees could have easily eliminated the $7500 yearly / Oswego Rider (15 Oswego Riders = about .05% of our Population) for the Park-N-Ride and with "those savings" adequately fund that additional $.75 / month on each phone bill for 911 improvements that will serve 100% of people in Oswego..

Brian "personally" pushed for that $.75 / month item on the ballot.

Brian also "personally" pushed for that new Home Rule .5% Sales Tax he imposed on us.

Despite his words otherwise, he will "do nothing" on the nonbining 20% reduction in Village of Oswego expenses / taxes voters desire.

Hey Brian, let me Chair a Citizens Committee of 5 people on this and we will have a report and recommendations ready by year end for a public hearing.

This election also proves Choo Choo Brian LeClercq, the misguided taxpayer unfriendly Oswego Village President, is wrong in wanting to raise sales taxes by 1% to get an Oswego Metra Station to handle very few potential riders when the less costly alternative is to have Oswego residents drive 15 minutes to the Aurora Metra Station.

Hey Brian, you failed (72% said NO!) to get taxpayers to pay more 911 services ... so how the heck do you think taxpayers want a Metra Station here which will result in 1% more sales tax and other increased taxes to pay for a $125,000,000 project?

In this economy, you are dreaming if the State & Feds are going to shell out that money

Michael Gari

10:28 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Please leave the budget of the Kendall County Veterans Assistance Commision intact. Cuts were already made once this year. Many Veterans rely on the VAC for essential services such as transport to VA Hines Hospital for medical appointments and rides to various dialysis centers in the area. Remember our Veterans and don't cut the budget. I am one of those Veterans and have no other means. Thank You. Michael A. Gari

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Tim

11:44 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Now you are aware of the kind of people that are your neighbors.

They never take into account anything other than their own pocketbooks. (which amusingly enough, ends up costing them more money)

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Concerned Citizen

7:58 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

Michael,

I am also a veteran. Happy Veterans Day. I would think things like this would be the last to be cut. Others would be police and fire. However, do we as taxpayers really need to pay for golf courses, bike trails, more parks, etc when the economy is bad and our property tax rates are in the top 1% in the entire country? These are the services we are fighting against. This is time to start cutting the non-essentials. Things we never should have paid for in the first place. If swego needs a golf course, then great. A business owner should open one without government subsidy.

ayar

11:17 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

"Although the referendum is not binding, supporters hope it sends a message to trim the non-essentials and provide Kendall County property owners some tax relief". So, the message on the Ballot was essentially "do you like high taxes, check yes or no?", or was it a "ballot initiative calling for government entities within Kendall County to cut 20 percent from every tax levy. I'm just curious, and just trying to understand the civics of this, [not trying to be a pain] what's not binding about it ?

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Lorentz

7:16 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Advisory questions are like popularity polls ayar. You can agree or disagree to just about anything when you know it isn't actually going to impact you. Even if a 20% reduction didn't end up violating any laws and/or other types of legal requirements set by Federal or State gov, what kind of operating budget would some bodies have left after paying out on union contracts? We usually only hear about percentage increases.
What we don't hear is by the time steps are added in, seniority increases, longevity pay, equivalency, back-loaded pension increases individuals could be getting 6% and higher increases per year. Tax-payers want transparency? Why are union negotiations in the PUBLIC sector funded by the PUBLIC secret? If there are going to be PUBLIC sector unions all negotiations should be open. You can't have real budget reform without laying one of the biggest pieces of the pie on the table.

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Alex Keown

11:28 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Ayar, it's not a binding resolution because the local taxing bodies are not required to act upon it regardless of how many voters support it.

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ayar

11:19 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Alex, thanks for the answer. So what your saying is that it would take a Tax Cap Referendum [PTELL] [like Cook County has/had] to have local taxing bodies be required to act to lock down on taxes? is this correct ? again, this is just curiosity, not trying to be a pain. gpa.uillinois.edu/system/files/TenYearsofTaxCapsinIllinois.pdf

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Lorentz

7:38 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Kendall is a PTELL County. Bonds are excluded.
Use a search engine and read about some of these contracts, there's even some old ones out there. Try to figure out the bottom line from those. There's plenty of info if you care to read it. Read a letter to ed in another state where some unionites would actually be getting over 12% increases.

Kevin K

1:41 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Why is there no coverage anywhere about the electrical aggregation referendum for Kendall County failing? This referendum would have essentially guaranteed those living in unincorporated Kendall County a smaller electric bill! I believe this referendum didn't pass simply because of a lack of information! Please, voters of Kendall County, be informed before you vote! A YES vote would have lowered your electric bill! And, please, media of Kendall County, help inform the voters of Kendall County!

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Tim

4:44 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Given the history of Kendall County residents, they rejected the aggregation measure because 'government is bad'.

The vote breakdown, between the REC center and the electric aggregation, sends a message that the majority of residents either do not understand basic finance, or simply hate anything that has to do with government.

As for the 'reduce all levies 20%', well... I wouldn't take financial advice from the residents of a county that held the highest foreclosure rate in the country. Elected officials get put in their positions to make these choices, and should be left to do so without the micromanaging nonsense involved in that 'reduce 20%' crowd. Anyone with any corporate experience at all knows that micromanaging something actually increases the costs, not decreases them. No matter what their intentions, the majority of voters are making decisions to increase the expenses, regardless of if they think otherwise.

Kibitzer

4:27 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

This is "Yorkville Patch" site, correct? What happened to the article on the vote concerning the purchase (or not), of the Rec Center? I want to see more of the sensible commonsense comments by Yorkville residents who opposed buying it. I find certain articles that have important discussions attached, seem to disappear rather quickly. I know this world is all about money, and so with all the advertisements popping up on site, some people don't want ANY negativity concerning anything that might bring them some sort of profit. I'm afraid this town may have too many people with too much influence that makes having some serious discussions about expenditures impossible.

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Alex Keown

4:49 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Kibitzer, the article about the Rec Center is still on the site, but it has moved off the front page due to newer articles being published.

Kibitzer

8:00 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Yeah, yeah, I understand that. But in the past, some articles were left on as dozens, or over a hundred comments were made. This Rec Center thing is very important to we ordinary, "living on a shoestring" folk. If there are many who agree that it isn't a good idea, then I'd like to see that. And see the reasons the supporters give, beyond that it is a handy place for them to go. And.....who DID give the ok for that flyer in the water bill????

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Robert Green

11:03 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

The real problem is the school district!!! 66% of our property taxes are for 308! The 308 taxing body should be limited to 33-45% of our property tax bills. Then we would see real relief. I'm not at all upset with what the county and village spends! I think they have been very reasonable for the most part!!! 308 doesn't even double our tax bill...IT TRIPLES IT!!! That's where the real cutting needs to be!!!

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Rolling on the Floor

7:35 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

It's just too funny for words. The citizens of Kendall County vote overwhelmingly in favor of a fantasy land advisory referendum demanding government cut costs by 20% and, on the same ballot, overwhelmingly vote to appose electrical aggregation, which would ACTUALLY CUT their electricity costs by 30-40%. You cannot make this stuff up!

Rolling on the Floor

7:37 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Sorry, didn't mean to post that as a reply to Mr. Greens comment

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cindy

8:18 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

One easy solution: turn all government employee pensions into 401k's. SIMPLE ANSWER!!!!

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Concerned Citizen

8:06 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

nd treat them like the rest of us? Oh my. That is unacceptable.

Mark A Johnson

8:29 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Concerning the electric vote... I'm just a simple man but here is my reasoning for voting against it. I could say the reason is that I don't like more government in my life but the reality is that logic tells me that someone will pay for this so-called savings. ComEd still must maintain the poles, wiring, etc but this low-cost third-party gets all the revenue without the costs associated with the full service? Maybe it makes sense to you but with less revenue to ComEd, who will pay for maintaining the infrastructure in the future? Oh, probably the government, right? Where does the government get their funds? Oh, that's right, the taxpayer. Pay me now or pay me later...

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Tim

8:52 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

This is a perfect example of an uninformed voter.

You were voting on the rate of your electricity SUPPLY, not the charge for your delivery. Look closer at your ComEd bill, and notice that there is a section for 'supply' and 'delivery'. The vote would have affected your supply charge, not your delivery charge. The delivery charge would have remained the same as always, but you would have had a lower supply expense from buying in bulk with your neighbors.

I can not begin to tell you how funny it is to watch the completely uninformed vote to increase their own expenses, while at the same time vote for a 20% reduction in taxes.

Kendall County = The land of the uninformed majority.

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Concerned Citizen

8:10 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

For Tim,

You seem like a real nice guy with all of your sarcacm and put downs. I am not one of the people who voted as you describe, but does it really make you feel superior because you read some information?

John

9:07 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Tim, i can't agree with you more. It's really not that difficult to find info on this. We live in an age where we have more information at our fingertips than at any time in human history and people still can't take the time to research an issue, even just a little bit.

It's sad, but we see the effects of this in last Tuesday's presidential vote, too.

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Mark A Johnson

9:21 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

@Tim - If you take the revenue away from ComEd how does ComEd make up for that loss and keep maintaining the infrastructure? That's right, in higher prices or more efficiency. Considering the infrastructure/the grid is already in shambles(note East Coast) my guess is higher prices to someone. Where does this third-party get their electricity? From the same sources ComEd does. The difference is that they do not have the overhead of ComEd due to not having to maintain the infrastructure. So I guess the poles and lines just disintegrate and eventually nobody gets anything. Just like the sewers, water lines, gas lines, and all infrastructure - the dominoes begin to fall. But I shouldn't worry about that - you have it covered for us, don't you... You seem to have all the answers these days...Gosh, I wish I was as smart as you...

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Tim

9:41 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

I wish you were as smart as me too. It would have prevented you from making that completely uninformed post.

Your ignorance of how things work in the world, does not automatically mean your ideas are right. Nothing of what you just said is even remotely true, and I will not waste time explaining why, to someone who obviously didn't even take 10 minutes to figure out those questions on their own.

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Ralph

10:04 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

I thnk there were over 30 differnt areas that voted on the electrict agg....I belive every one except kendall county approved the measure. Mr. Johnson is spearheading the 20% tax reduction, yet votes against the ability to lower electric rates? Ironic? Yep. You always would have had the choice to opt out of any competing company and kept your com ed. Isn't the free market a great way to ensure you get better rates? yep. In many ways kendall is a backwards county.

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John

12:43 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Mark, in one sense you're correct. If more people purchase their electricity deliver from a third-party provider then ComEd 'could' make up the 'loss' with higher rates. They could also make up that loss by becoming more efficient and lowering their own costs, as you stated.

ComEd currently, as has since deregulation in 1997, been able to sell electricity wholesale to other carriers. Since then, in an effort to remove the monopoly companies like ComEd had on the production, delivery, maintenance, and billing of services, energy commodities were developed. Now, the customer has the ability to determine what company to use to supply their electricity. As an added benefit, these third-party companies can supplement their supply by using wind, solar, or competing providers (other than ComEd). The net effect is electricity costs have not risen at the same level as they did before deregulation.

Don't for a second think that ComEd is not making money on this. Once the regulated price caps expired in 2007, ComEd raised their wholesale prices dramatically. One of the down-sides of deregulation is the price is volatile and there's no guarantee of always paying less than the ComEd rate. The effect of competition has always been to make prices lower than they otherwise would've been. That is what we're seeing now.

Gene DuSell

12:09 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Robert Green is correct that school districts are where any meaning full property tax reduction would occur if they cut their levy's .Plano 88 & Waubonsie College take 80%
of my $5,000 , 40yrs ago my taxes were under $500 a yr as a County resident.
Ralph , Sandwich voted down electric aggregation. Exelon Corp. owner of Com Ed
makes their money selling power from their nuke plants. They can bid selling power
to Kendall county. As a county resident I can chose to opt out of County electric supplier and keep the higher cost Com Ed if i was allowed to chose. Unfortunately
I will not be allowed this choice by the failure of referendum not passing.

Just a thought, because some of the Kendall County cities have already voted for
aggregation whats to keep their citizens from voting no to keep County residents
from getting cheaper electric supplier. ????

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Rennetta

8:56 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Gene, public questions are solely presented to persons within the "boundaries" of the proposition. In preparing for the election we had to create additional ballot styles for precincts that contain voters within municipal borders - the electrical aggregation question was not on those ballots for the Nov 6, 2012 election; while voters that reside in unincorporated areas received ballots that included the County's electrical aggregation question.

Brian

6:28 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012

This was possibly the most disappointing result of the election. To blindly insist that 20% get cut from every tax levy is irresponsible. I thought my fellow Oswegoans had more sense.

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Concerned Citizen

8:19 am on Monday, November 12, 2012

Brian, this is non-binding and we really need to start looking at costs. We are in the top 1% highest property taxes in the country. Something is wrong. Everyone is saying we can't cut anything. That is ridiculous. We can. There is a large amount of waste in any government because unlike business, they don't need to deal with it. They just increase taxes.

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